A friend of mine is just starting beginning band and none of the students listen to her.
The drummers keep playing over her instructions along with the other instruments. She also has students who do not wish to play at all and talk the whole time.
She has tried alternate assignments and asking the guidance counselor to remove them from the program with no avail.
Do you have any suggestions for her? I'm all out as she has already exhausted my little bag of tricks.
PS. the teacher before her didn't really teach so that doesn't help either.
Thanks!
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How do you get your band to listen to you?
Started by Bclarsax, Oct 19 2004 02:04 PM
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 03:48 PM
You want to rehearse the procedure for class until they can do it. You play NO MUSIC at all until everyone can follow the procedure for cutting off and getting quiet when you are teaching. At the beginning of the year, I will take a whole rehearsal and just work on learning what is expected as far as playing or talking while I am talking. When they backslide, you go right back to the lesson on procedures. Never teach over talking or playing!! A good book to get if you have problems with this is called The First Day of School by Harry Wong. That book changed my life.
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Posted 25 December 2005 - 03:15 AM
Richard is right. The students must be trained how to rehearse. It will mean sacrificing time to teach the procedure. Unfortunately not all teachers can recover from poorly established discipline.
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Posted 26 December 2005 - 04:11 PM
I agree with the above mentioned things. It will take time away from rehearsal but the benefits down the road will be so much better. They need to realize there is a time for messing around and a time for getting down to business and when you stand on the podium it is time for business.
As far as percussionist, many times they act up because they have nothing to do. Some things to help with that is make sure they are all doing something with the band when warming up. Have a few drummers on snares playing some rudiments you give while the band is playing scales or what not. Have mallets playing along with the band and have your timpani player outline the chords. While the band is tuning have the song order on the board and tell the percussion to get set up so they can go from song to song without a huge set-up wait in between.
Also percussion music tends to be easier because they can usually play more complex rhythms then most your wind players. Maybe once a week have a percussionist in the area come in and work with them in a different room on some percussion ensemble pieces that they can play in your concert. Most of the time percussionists are cting up out of boredom. Keep em' busy and you will take care of that issue.
As far as percussionist, many times they act up because they have nothing to do. Some things to help with that is make sure they are all doing something with the band when warming up. Have a few drummers on snares playing some rudiments you give while the band is playing scales or what not. Have mallets playing along with the band and have your timpani player outline the chords. While the band is tuning have the song order on the board and tell the percussion to get set up so they can go from song to song without a huge set-up wait in between.
Also percussion music tends to be easier because they can usually play more complex rhythms then most your wind players. Maybe once a week have a percussionist in the area come in and work with them in a different room on some percussion ensemble pieces that they can play in your concert. Most of the time percussionists are cting up out of boredom. Keep em' busy and you will take care of that issue.
Adam W. Metzler
Central Aroostook High School & Fort Street Elementary School Instrumental Music Teacher
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Posted 15 March 2006 - 02:33 PM
I have been using a couple of things to keep my beginners on task that have been working well.
One is the EARLY method. Write the word EARLY really huge on the board. When you have a problem with behavior, go erase a letter. Each letter remaining equals one minute dismissal at the end of the class. If all the letters are erased, we rehearse right up to the bell and no late passes are given. All I have to do is look at that board and they hush.
We do Friday afternoon band detention for 30 minutes. This works pretty well.
I also do the "100" club that allows special treats for students who make a 100 on their playing test for the week and make a 100 on their behavior grade. Their names are posted on a bulletin board in the room and they are recognized at the Spring Concert. All members of the "club" get a pizza party at the end of the year.
Bribes, yes.
Good rehearsals, yes
Superior ratings, YES!
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One is the EARLY method. Write the word EARLY really huge on the board. When you have a problem with behavior, go erase a letter. Each letter remaining equals one minute dismissal at the end of the class. If all the letters are erased, we rehearse right up to the bell and no late passes are given. All I have to do is look at that board and they hush.
We do Friday afternoon band detention for 30 minutes. This works pretty well.
I also do the "100" club that allows special treats for students who make a 100 on their playing test for the week and make a 100 on their behavior grade. Their names are posted on a bulletin board in the room and they are recognized at the Spring Concert. All members of the "club" get a pizza party at the end of the year.
Bribes, yes.
Good rehearsals, yes
Superior ratings, YES!
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Posted 18 November 2007 - 10:09 PM
Hello
After School Detentions. Students sit and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for 15 minutes the first time. 30 minutes the next time. 45 minutes the next, etc. No talking, no homework, no iPod, nothing.
If they don't show, double the time. Call parents and make sure you have administration support.
Keep Smilin'
Len Allman
After School Detentions. Students sit and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for 15 minutes the first time. 30 minutes the next time. 45 minutes the next, etc. No talking, no homework, no iPod, nothing.
If they don't show, double the time. Call parents and make sure you have administration support.
Keep Smilin'
Len Allman
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 06:57 PM
Band directors, like all good teachers, need classroom management skills that enable students to work towards a goal. together and with the director - not against them. I happen to think its got nothing to do with each student's personal attachment to music. Its got everything to do with class management that works for control of student behavior, complimenting appropriate behavior and attacking inappropriate behavior with strong and firm repercussions. Success will reaffirm positive, productive behavior. This does not happen in any program overnight. Matter of fact - it is something all teachers manage everyday in every class.
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